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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 296 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Fake and gay.

No way the engineer corrects the mathematician for using j instead of i.

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 4 days ago (7 children)

As an engineer I fully agree. Engineers¹ aren't even able to do basic arithmetics. I even cannot count to 10.

¹ Except maybe Electrical engineers. They seem to be quite smart.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Engineer here, I can definitely count to 10 tho

0 1 10

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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Electrical engineers are the ones that use j though (because i is used for current)

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[–] thomasloven@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

10? That’s the name some put to 1e1, right?

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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

How do we know it's gay though? OP could be a girl (male)

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 59 points 4 days ago

Because it's 4chan. And there are no women on the Internet on 4chan

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago

Sure OP is a girl. Guy In Real Life

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Right? They got that shit backwards. Op is a fraud. i is used in pure math, j is used in engineering.

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[–] kogasa@programming.dev 20 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The mathematician also used "operative" instead of, uh, something else, and "associative" instead of "commutative"

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 156 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Wait bottom mathematican is using j=√-1 instead of i and not the engineer? Because I'm EE gang, and all my homies use j.

[–] GandalfTheDumb@lemmy.world 65 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That part also got me really confused. All the mathematicans I know use i while engineers use i or j depending on the kind of engineer. I've never seen a Pikachu engineer using anything other than j.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago

Pikachu engineer

That's a fucking favorite now. Keeping that in my back pocket.

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fun starts when you study quaternions

i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago (5 children)
[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

(...I think you may have gotten whooshed...)

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[–] laserm@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why would a mathematician use j for imaginary numbers and why would engineer be mad at them?

[–] CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only thing I can think of is that the OP studied electrical engineering at some point. But it's a 4chan story so probably fake anyway.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

fake and gay?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago

I think it might be the wrong way around: Engineers like to use j for imaginary numbers because i is needed for current.

[–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago

Mathematicians are taught to be elastic with notation, because they tend to be taught many different interpretations of the same theory.

On the other hand engineers use more strict and consistent notation, their classes have a more practical approach.

Using the same notation makes it faster to read and apply math, a more agile approach helps with learning new theories and approaches and with being creative.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

operative?

Also mathematicians use i for imaginary, engineers use j. The story does not add up. I have never seen a single mathematician use j for imaginary.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 31 points 4 days ago

I have no idea what they're talking about, but I do love a happy ending.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Well done, truly

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 80 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Is anyone doing anything tonight?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Something something distance calls for norm, not just squares.

||i||² + ||1||² = 2

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

no, d..do you have a plan?

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m a mechanical engineering student with a math minor and I’m a switch so yeah, I’d take either side of this

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Me, a language/arts person: "Huh?"

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] nfamwap@feddit.uk 9 points 4 days ago

Moron here. "Huh?"

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

I love how that wannabe 4chan nerd just got outnerded in the comment section

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is the kind of brat I can get behind. 😏

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As a physicist I can't understand why would anyone complain about a +jb or $\int dx f(x)$. Probably because we don't fuck

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 4 days ago (5 children)

As a software dude I can see you wrote a regex, I just can't find out what you're trying to match.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Better plot than 50 Shades of Grey

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think rather d/dx is the operator. You apply it to an expression to bind free occurrences of x in that expression. For example, dx²/dx is best understood as d/dx (x²). The notation would be clear if you implement calculus in a program.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If not fraction, why fraction shaped?

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

$\int dx f(x)$ is standard notation for physicists

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

I believe the correct terminology is denominator mathematician.

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 25 points 4 days ago

Relationship goals

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago

They both bottoms.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can somebody ELI5 this for my troglodyte writer brain?

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Integrals are an expression that basically has an opening symbol, and an operation that is written at the end of it that is used also as a closing symbol, looks kinda like:$ {some function of x} dx.

The person basically said "the dx part can be written at the start also, and that would make my so mad :3": $ dx {some function of x}.

This gets their so mad because understandably this makes the notation non-standard and harder to read, also you'd have to use parentheses if the expression doesn't just end at the function.

Note: dollar used instead of integral symbol

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