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[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This would be great for an "oh fuck off" plot point in a cyberpunk thriller or something. 'What do you mean the only copy of the ____ is on the corpo's pet raven'

Officially stolen for my Cyberpunk Red campaign. Thanks, Satan!

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 56 points 6 days ago

Still more compatible than webp

[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It would be interesting to know how long these signals can persist in birdsong before the information is lost to the bird telephone game. Could it be possible to encode a secret message into birdsong long term?

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What if our memes are just super-intelligent aliens storing a backup of their critical knowledge in the collective consciousness of billions of humans?

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 days ago

Please don't give Hideo Kojima any ideas.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago

just add a shitload of error correction!

I'm more intrigued by all that and the potential for a mesh-net that shuttles discrete 'memes' like this around.

I would bet that research would show that it's possible, but there's bound to be pruning and errors in the payload as the 'song' gets passed around. So the actual practical amount of storage for a network is going to be a lot smaller. At the same time, data could be optimized to better match the bird's memory, behaviors, and vocal limits. One might also employ different encoding strategies too, based on that fidelity information.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You wouldn’t download a bird!

[–] towamo7603@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Would if they were real.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This joke makes no sense in this context you idiot! Oh it’s me…

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I was pretty enthralled by a lot of the stuff in this video. Kinda wanna try birdnet-pi now!

a very minor nitpick: it's not a PNG at all, it's a lot fuzzier than being an actual image format. but I get that he's gotta dumb down the video title so it's not really a big deal

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The original file was a PNG. It stopped being a PNG when it was encoded as spectrogram of an audio file. Obviously in the bird's memory the data is neither png nor any other machine-readable file format, but electrochemical signals.

And when recovered, the image resembles a drawing of a bird with quite a bit less detail, but also a somewhat horizontal line through the middle of it.

I'm guessing one could make about 250 drawings that can be reliably distinguished in the bird's call, storing one byte with decent reliability, which can be boosted at scale with Reed-Solomon. The "hundreds of kilobytes of uncompressed data" claim is ridiculous, I can "make" 4 MB of data by taking a 16MP photo of a 10-byte phone number.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

His other video on audio surveillance is eye opening. Stuff like that is relatively accessible to a layperson nowadays, it's scary to think what's possible on the cutting edge of things.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can the bird sing the epstein files though?

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Sadly the bird killed itself before it could repeat the message.

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

I give it 2 weeks before some goofs have made the birds sing the shape of a penis.

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago

We downloaded a whole country to a bunch of birds!

Tap for spoiler"I ran" - A Flock of Seagulls

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You want to run DOOM on a flock of birds now?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think not of what we should do, only what we can do... to a flock of birds.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Im down. Confirmed a starling has enough memory to store doom, we just need to figure out how to get it to redit: I'm stumped.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Time to make something dial-up like optimized for birds to actually store digital data.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now I want to know if a bird can trick a modem into connecting

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Benn Jordan's videos are great.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Finally, USBird storage

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Birds are ~~not real~~ unreal!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

someone needs to post this in a meshtastic group, we'll have lora store and forward bird routers

[–] tinyvoltron@discuss.online 5 points 6 days ago

Fake news. Birds aren't real.

[–] Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

This video keeps getting into my recommendations

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