this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2025
647 points (97.8% liked)

News

35215 readers
2797 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The latest release of Jeffrey Epstein documents includes an FBI report about a caller's claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off" in the small town in northeast Oklahoma days after reporting to police she had been raped by Epstein and Donald Trump. The caller described the death as a murder.

The FBI report was in the nearly 30,000 new documents released by the U.S. Justice Department on Dec. 23.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 247 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Oh, it's a different murder from the one Trump was implicated in a few days ago. That one was a baby born to a 13 year old rape victim and thrown into a lake. This one is a rape victim herself who reported him. You know you've picked a good President when he has too many alleged rapes and murders to keep track of.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 81 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Candice_the_elephant@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Plus that civil case where he was found to have raped another woman. And the complaints from at least one of his wives about violent rape.

[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love that it has become an internet law to remind people that Mr. Trump has 34 convictions.

I call it Trump Rule 34. I'm gonna look it up to see if I coined a new phrase...

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Poor guy. I would have warned him, but that was almost an hour ago and surely he's already gone blind by now.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

He’s probably feckin’ dead, mate. Gonna be in the files pt.2.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (8 children)

People have jumped on this but it's just an anonymous tip done through an open web form. It's about as substantiated as writing on a bathroom wall.

Doesn't mean it's not true, but it's also the weakest evidenced thing in there.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

I suspect the DOJ is deliberately releasing the unsubstantiated tips and other crap as a smokescreen, while also withholding anything substantial.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago (8 children)

So far none of the major outlets have covered this story but I have seen it on a ton of smaller sites. This seems odd

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 92 points 1 month ago

The big ones are waiting to be told who the scapegoat is.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I don't know what happened there.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Yeah I know I'm just wondering why they aren't reporting this huge story even the outlets that don't like trump aren't reporting it yet

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I mean there is a really simple obvious explanation. They have either been told not to or are afraid of repercussions from the administration

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago

Ideally, the bigger guys would be trying to corroborate the story by other means before reporting it. Verify facts before reporting claims. Generally the purpose of journalism.

Not that I have much faith left that the big guys do journalism.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That is because it’s an FBI tip likely left by a mentally ill person. Read the whole thing.

Most of the “unredacted” stuff is of this nature. We are being played. What they did was hand America one of those archaeology digs for kids and people who don’t understand what was done are crowing about the mummy they found in the compacted sand they chipped away with their plastic chisel.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If it was a Democrat in the story, it would be the top story EVERYWHERE.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago

the MSM are largely trumpers/conservative owners now. they arnt reporting it, because it potentially hurts the republicans, also executives, ceos and politician both foreign and domestic.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How many major outlets aren’t owned by trump supporter?

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Dont forget the ex-wife he pushed down the stairs because he hated him due to his affair. And then had buried on his golf course so he could claim it was a cemetery for tax purposes.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He also violently raped her while they were married.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 51 points 1 month ago

And yanked a handful of hair out by the roots because she had recommended the scalp reduction treatment for his baldness, and it turned out to be more painful than he anticipated.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago

I'm noticing a pattern

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, he had her buried there so he could cheat on her one last time.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago

She’s probably got a fuckton of the most incriminating top secret classified files with her, too

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When he said he could shoot someone and get away with it....I guess he was actually telling the truth for once.

Actually twice now....

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Feels like it should be easy to find a police investigation of this.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 month ago

In a less corrupt world.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, if one was ever done.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think people get their heads blown off without some sort of investigation.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You would be amazed how many murders go almost completely uninvestigated in America.

Do some research on some of our more famous serial killers in American history,and police investigation surrounding them. What you'll find will disgust you. And that's just ones that we know about after the fact.

Especially so if the police force is tipped off that it might involve someone with lots of money.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

In Oklahoma in particular.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a background watcher of more true crime than I'd like to have watched, you're completely right. In addition, the investigations the police do are often unbelievably terrible and have at times led to decades of the wrong people in jail or under suspicion because they're racist, xenophobic, or just plain lazy and bad at their jobs.

I watched one that I found particularly sickening where they spent lots of time investigating the dad of the victim and coersing a confession out of him when the paroled, actual perpetrator left a shoe with his name on it at the scene of the crime, and the victim's young brother said that his dad didn't do it and saw someone else take his sister.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Riley_Fox

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 month ago

claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off"

That certainly sounds suspicious.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Republicans and Trumpers are now playing the 'I don't like politics/don't want to talk about it" card. They're going back to quietly supporting all this rather than openly supporting it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's why we have to carve a Swastika into their foreheads.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 28 points 1 month ago

So trump has been linked to two murders now? Surely he will face consequences /s

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.fox23.com/news/local/kiefer-ok-mentioned-in-epstein-files/article_d8483262-b1fd-4f79-8322-31631887f732.html

When speaking to the police, they said they reached out to the FBI to see if the Bureau could help the dept. in clearing some of the redactions in the filings for them, so they could search records for specific names, but the Bureau was unable to do so.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

the Bureau was unable to do so

Did they try copying and pasting?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nothing is going to happen, except some Democrats will have to leave public life. Dear Leader is above the law. He is the law. And America seems OK with that.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
load more comments
view more: next ›