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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

According to Trump, nobody has rights but Trump, who has the Divine Right of Kings.

Trump and conservatives believe anyone they don't like for any reason doesn't have any rights.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is not a new idea in Conservative circles. I remember having debates wih people 30 years ago, who voted for goobers like Bob Dole, George Pataki and Al D'Amato, who insisted that the rights in the Bill of Rights only applied to citizens, and foreigners in our country had no rights whatsoever.

And since Trump has decided that Omar's citizenship application is fraudulent, in his mind she never was a citizen, so is subject to the same treatment.

You see? It makes total sense, if you're a xenophobic moron!

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or Bush senior saying that he doesn't know if atheists should be considered citizens.

[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Religion are the worse and need to be regulated to prevent harm.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Its already regulated. Problem is just that no one cares to enforce it.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

You spelled eliminated wrong

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Christianity needs to be treated like a mental health pandemic

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"The right of the people to be... "

"No person shall be held to answer..."

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall..."

And so on.

I don't see a single mention of citizen in there, only the people, person, the accused which are words that can refer to anyone citizen or not.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really simple, those who aren't US citizens, aren't people - according to MAGA.

[–] tquid@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

~~citizens~~ white, straight, Christian men

FTFY

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Well, if you don't consider immigrants to be people...

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

The idea of non-citizens having different rights (not none, but a very different set) is pretty well-established. But the courts have also long upheld that it's all or nothing. Once you become a citizen, you have all of those rights. If you renounce, you lose them all. There is very little wiggle room on the subject.

Trump decided she wasn't a citizen long before there was any question of fraud. That happened the moment she refused to kneel to him. The rest is just about how he can reach his goal of destroying anyone that would challenge him.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't he "technically" an immigrant child? His grandfather was German, right? Soo by Trump logic he himself doesn't have rights.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rules don't apply to him. Checkmate.

[–] bertlewirth@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. As is always the conservative way, “rules flr thee, not for me”

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can you even imagine how horrible the world would be if human immortality were ever achieved?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

We would have vampiric elites sucking the life force out of children... Oh wait.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are we talking, like, we stop aging all together, or are we talking like "come back from death" immortality?

Because the former is a problem that can be dealt with, the latter is a horror movie.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean permaputin, permatrump, permahegseth, permamiller, permahawley, permamusk, permazuck, permabezos, permatiel, permacruz...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the case of despots like Trump, the former is a dystopian thriller too..

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I don't disagree, but he needs to be lucky every time, we need to be lucky once in that scenario.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Just fucking die already you fat, racist dotard.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sadly, these ideas neither started with him, nor will they die with him.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately. The Heritage Foundation goes back to at least the early 1800s, but thats where things get murky. A direct line of people can connect Trump to Anthony Comstock.

Trump -> Roy Cohn -> Joseph McCarthy -> J. Edgar Hoover -> Anthony Comstock (although I can't seem to figure out if Hoover and Comstock ever actually met).

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago

Conservatives have always opposed human rights. Always.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ilhan Omar has constitutional rights.

[–] ElDuderino@lemmus.org 8 points 1 day ago

It really baffles fascists to learn that the constitution has never just protected citizens.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 14 points 1 day ago

Well, to be fair, he doesn't think any other American citizen has constitutional rights either.

[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I suggest Trump is a traitor and seditionist and should receive a just punishment as laid out in the Constitution.

[–] bertlewirth@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago

I suggest he get stoned to death for adultery, as per his precious book he and his ilk have never read.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Now you're talking

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Honest question, because this argument seems pretty fucking dumb. Is there not a process to vet and verify representatives? I would think that any crazy shit in their background would be found pretty quickly upon accepting the job.

I mean, I get that a shitload of people have worked for this administration while ignoring their background or qualifications. In those instances, it was ignored because they wanted to. In this case, they are specifically out to get her.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I think technically the vote is the verification.

[–] bw42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

To be a Representative in the House you have to be at least 25 years old, a citizen for 7 years, and live in the state you're elected.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“Excuse me, but aren’t there rules and procedures for this?” will echo through time as the most impotent question ever asked.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Melania Trump doesn't have constitutional rights

Elon Musk doesn't have constitutional rights

keep it going

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

There are no constitutional rights, we made the whole thing up

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't think anyone has any rights other than to suck his fat orange sausage.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Cute to think that anyone thinks it's fat.

If he makes that argument then we should also argue that he shouldn't have them either.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

If there is any class or category of people who have no rights, then no one has any rights.

Because the government can just disappear full citizens into the no-rights category, and there is no right to challenge the designation.

I suggest we talk about the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES(TM)

[–] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Really fucking dumb guy says really fucking dumb shit. This and weather and sports at 11:00.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone has constitutional rights, even pedophiles like Trump

Not in all states. He is, after all, a convicted felon. He'd lose SOME rights everywhere in the US, voting rights everywhere except DC, Vermont, and Maine. If he was literally anyone else, that is.

The fact that he's functionally above the law even after being found guilty doesn't mean that others like him are..yet.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Since when has Trump cared about the constitution?

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