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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm old and I still get surprise by how USA is addicted to cars.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

you ever tried to get around USA?

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, Some places are halfway decent to get around, even smaller places, but usually only either in the east or maybe on the West Coast and then generally historic neighbourhoods as building new places that are not utterly hostile to humans is generally illegal nowadays in most places.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

But we could fix it, if we tried, all together.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 114 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So, apparently this used to be a day club.

Then the freeway was built.

THEN Miniya Academies LLC bought the property and made it a charter school.

So, IMHO, all blame goes to Dayton SMART. (Who the fuck would want their kids to go there?)

This school apparently has tests scores well below the Ohio average. Big surprise.

Looking at the traffic flow, it looks like the ONLY way to get to this school is from the right lane, passing through the underpass. Elementary kids aside, this is a traffic safety nightmare. I thought Texas had bad zoning laws. Whoever approved this should have to work solely from this building for the rest of their life. Even the on/off ramp looks like a traffic nightmare.

[–] Cyanity@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Apparently you can do this as well. Nightmare intersection. Picture of Google Maps route to the school

[–] faythofdragons@piefed.social 24 points 3 days ago

Hey, there's a sidewalk, that's better than most cities in the US! kPFvw2i4IhgaaZq.png

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago

There's a pedestrian path going to the left. Which even has a connection to a sidewalk and a bus route going there. For US standards this is basically a walkable city utopia

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

🎶 fighter of the night club (ah-ah-aaaaah) 🎶

[–] Janx@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

I'm guessing... the opposite of a night club?

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 133 points 3 days ago (19 children)

How is this not considered a human rights abuse of children?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 137 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Children rights? Sounds like communism.

  • actual US congress
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Two federal appeals court judges appointed by Trump just ruled yesterday that the general public has no right to air in their homes free from tear gas, and therefore a lawsuit against ICE for heavily deploying tear gas (in a non-urgent situation no less) in a populated neighborhood has no merit for a suit.

Think about the implications of that in a country where life, liberty And the pursuit of happiness are the founding elements. Tear gas in your kitchen by state thugs.

I hope people are compiling a list of these fuckers so we know whose families to extradite from Argentina when this finally goes down.

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Because they're hispanic kids

(Obviously it ought to be seen as abuse - but this is the shithole world we live in)

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Prison vibes

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Holy cow you can hear the fluorescents buzzing just looking at it.

I really often wonder if school architects and prison architects are the same people. Both are cruel, deliberate, human containment pens made of concrete and steel.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

It's because we built a lot of the prisons at the same time we built a lot of the schools. They're both usually intended to serve multiple generations, and while the usage requirements may grow they don't grow so fast that you need to tear them down entirely and rebuild, usually just renovate.
They're also usually designed with more functional requirements to makes certain parts of them mandatory.
For example, schools often must have a certain amount of windowless hallway where the walls are a prescribed strength for tornado safety. Needs to be within a certain range of each classroom, have a limited amount of potential debris, and so on. As a result, every school ends up with at least one "hub" hallway that's fucking bleak as hell, because the storm shelter requirements also make it a very obvious hub to build classrooms off, and if you need to add more capacity: make the hall longer.

I've seen some designs where newer schools are being built with the shelter but as a + in the middle, with a windowed hallway around the outside, or even just taking the same floor plan and bending it to give classrooms larger window surfaces.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My town just got through a couple decades of replacing all its schools but the old buildings are still around as community centers. The new ones are much less prison like than the old ones.

Maybe a lot of it is how long we keep most school buildings

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago

Yes. Architects who design schools also design prisons. And the designs have a lot of similarity.

In the US the school districts are primarily for containment, then for indoctrination, then for edification.

Note that this changed momentarily after Sputnik and America decided it needed to get into gear. And the current Republican push to dismantle public education systems entirely are reactionary to that, since a lot of that generation dared to question authority.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are going to treat children like this, just don't have them.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 4 points 1 day ago

You're blaming the parents for a nation that has built its pride on paving over paradise?

[–] nastronot@lemmy.zip 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s a charter school aka money grab.

It was never built to be a school. It was converted.

You could argue that these “public” charter schools exist because of lack of investment in public schooling, but that’s wasn’t the point of the post.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, really it's public schools are under funded so they can convince people to funnel money into charter schools so someone can get rich.

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm baffled that this is legal. Those kids will be breathing traffic fumes all day. Tire dust, highway litter, it looks like a literally toxic environment for kids to spend most of their day for most of the year. And that's apart from the fairly obvious danger of having high speed traffic right next to a school.

Edit: My son just came home from school and added noise, and that you can only go to school by car, not by bike or walking (although I understand that's not unusual in the US).

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[–] myyass@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Multi track learning!

[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No surprises here.

Serving 94 students in grades Kindergarten-6, Dayton Smart Elementary School ranks in the bottom 50% of all schools in Ohio for overall test scores (math proficiency is bottom 50%, and reading proficiency is bottom 50%).

The percentage of students achieving proficiency in math is 11-19% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 54%). The percentage of students achieving proficiency in reading/language arts is 40-49% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 60%).

The student-teacher ratio of 16:1 is lower than the Ohio state level of 17:1.

Minority enrollment is 93% of the student body (majority Hispanic), which is higher than the Ohio state average of 35% (majority Black and Hispanic).

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[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 37 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I honestly thought there's no way this is real but after seeing the comments and searching online, on the school's own location link:

Absolutely horrible location for a school. Innocent kids suffering from the mistakes of generations past😞

Good gods that is miserably tragic

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 55 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I don't even see the sad excuse of a playground. Is it actually there?

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would be most worried about the things you can't see on pictures: air and noise pollution. I imagine graduation looks something like this:

[–] lawks@aussie.zone 19 points 3 days ago

PM 2.5 does worse things than just asthma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particulate_matter

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[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago

Think of what they're breathing all day.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

Public education disparity in America is crazy. I had a good upbringing, I was an only child and both my parents had full time jobs. The only time I can really remember feeling jealous about seeing something someone else had an opportunity as when they were a kid was when I went to a performance at Milton High School. It's a public highschool in Georgia and genuinely looked nicer than the college I went to. While I was in highschool, we had more trailers* outside than classrooms inside.

And I know that with a global perspective I still did have a very privileged education, but like the OP says, when we're talking about what "the richest country on earth" is doing, it just doesn't add up. It's not like I wasn't aware my highschool was shitty, even while I was there I knew it was, because we'd go to other ones for various events. But even the nicest ones I saw, that one still felt an order of magnitude nicer. A lot of it had to do with the performance. The school had some sort of partnership with Cirque de Solel (no idea how to spell it, and also I may have misunderstood and it wasn't actually a partnership and just a play that they originally made). Seeing a fully packed, massive auditorium for a highschool performance that also involved acrobatics was just crazy. The arts are always underfunded, so I can only imagine how nice everything else was at this school. It's basically in the wealthiest area of my state.

*: People outside the US or certain parts of the US might not know what this refers to. It's like a mobile classroom (compared to a permanent structure, lol, same way a "mobile home" is "mobile"). These were used because the population growth in the area outpaced school constitution. So instead of building a new school which takes long, just throw trailers at the problem. But my highschool genuinely did have more trailers outside than rooms inside.

And just to reiterate, this was a public highschool. We should be investing more in our future by investing in education, both college and k12.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Just think of the pollution. The air, surrounded by heavy car traffic on all sides, must be outright toxic, never mind the noise, that maybe can be handled by very good windows (which I am not sure that building has).

The maybe craziest thing here might be that there is a safe underpass leading to the sidewalk of a much less terrifying street (the remnants of a main street, ravaged by neglect and car oriented developments), than that highway exit curve but it appears to be locked and blocked. I might be wrong but that doesn't look like a path accessible to pupils or their parents.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

You'll never guess the skin color of the kids we put in there.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Oh yeah, Dayton is just like that. It's got so many issues along those lines and is just generally a pretty depressing city. Great oktoberfest though.

And Ohio in particular has a cultural issue where people don't seem to believe change for the better is possible. A lot of people disengage rather than acknowledge that at the local level of government a fuck ton of real change can happen. Columbus should have a light rail system, whether elevated or underground, but if you talk to people there it just isn't feasible because they tried to put in a rail system already, but it didn't work (they couldn't get the money because of the oil crisis in the 70s and stopped trying afterwards).

I love Ohio in a lot of ways, it's home, but thank fuck I'm gone

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

Not believing good change is possible is one of the pillars of conservatism. It leads to "why do what's right?" and "I should just get what's mine" and "if you can't beat em, join em"

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is some I just learned how to play cities skylines bullshit

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

They have a virtual tour of the inside of the building, if you'd like to get really depressed.

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[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I drive past that school pretty often. I always forget it is a school, it looks more like a truck depot from the outside.

Dayton Public Schools have tons of hard to solve problems. Its test scores are bad. Parent Involvement is nonexistent. The state forcing the system to give bussing priority to private school students. A corrupt School board that was caught buying every student a hoodie that they couldn't wear to school because it violates dresscode.

A series of failed levees partially because of the corruption, partially because Dayton is an Automotive rust belt town. Several of Library's in the city close when school lets out because Students would leave school and start fights at the library.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The crosswalk to the school CROSSES A FREAKING OFF-RAMP!!!

Edit after some research: The street the ramp comes off of has a speed limit of 35mph (55kph), and the crosswalk is metered, so it could be worse

POV me when I am playing cities skylines and I plop city services in "optimal central location"

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