“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
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That seems like a fair reflection of the US population who deny climate change.
most GOP voters just bleat what they're told to bleat by fox news and the 0.001% who have a financial interest in never moving away from fossil fuels
But the amount of that is too damn high, too!
Which surely couldn't have anything to do with underfunded schools, book bannings, and sensationalised news.
I wonder if the venn diagram of climate change deniers and those who receive significant contributions from the oil lobby is essentially a circle.
Koch brother: I missed how many? It's a good thing my brother is dead or he'd kill me for not buying all of them! Well at least we have half the Senate, that's all we really need.
They're very good at making up things!
And that's just the ones denying it...
Lots more understand it's a real thing, but are perfectly happy we set record breaking fossil fuels production under Biden.
Because it's one of the few things propping up "the economy".
Unfortunately pulling coal out of the ground and shipping it to China where they burn coal less efficiently leads to even more climate change than just burning it here.
If the rest really cared, we wouldn't be breaking records as we speak
i might be misreading your point - apologies if so.
shipping coal to china
Was this a general, global statement? Or specifically the US mining coal to sell to china?
Here's an article about the records we broke under Biden:
https://www.vox.com/climate/24098983/biden-oil-production-climate-fossil-fuel-renewables
Here's some specifically about shipping coal to China:
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/more-coal-is-being-shipped-by-sea-than-ever-before
But for your question:
Both. It's not unique to the US, even though that's what I was talking about. And China is (meant isn't) the only country with few regulations buying it up.
Across the globe countries do stuff like a small amount of electric buses because voters do care about climate change. However as they use less fossil fuels, they still produce the same or even more. They just ship them to countries with less regulations resulting in more pollution before even factoring in the carbon costs to transport it.
Because climate change is a global issue, it still hurts the original country along with everyone else.
Thanks - to be clear I wasn’t challenging you, just asking a follow up question, I appreciate the sources!
No worries, I should have thrown some on the first comment.
People want things to better which is good.
But often they reflexively get mad when you point out things aren't better just because some things around you are better.
If we're going to fix a global problem, we need to look at the whole globe, not just what's next to us.
This is exactly why I hate uplifting news about some places reducing their emissions or other pollution. It paints the accomplishments as happening in a vacuum, when in fact the problem likely has been moved elsewhere. If all the major countries are decreasing pollution but the global picture still shows an increase, are we really fixing anything, or just shuffling the numbers around?
Nature is the only one not lying.