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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 155 points 1 month ago (3 children)

.......yeah, ok. Sounds good.

moves to California

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I’ve got “Hotel California” and “San Francisco” battling it out in my head now.

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[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (10 children)

It'll never happen. US Military would never willingly split itself apart, let itself get split apart, or let another nation that it's not allied with have any sort of Army on its equivalent. The 50 states are here to stay.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never say never. The domestic terrorists/agents of Putin are aching for an actual shooting civil war.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even a peaceful division of the US would be something they would seriously benefit from. The US permanently divided against itself, each side easy to manipulate into a military conflict against the other. We would have nukes pointed at each other within a decade. It would be like the splitting of India and Pakistan, along with all the accompanying human rights atrocities.

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't threaten me with a good country.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can Canada take the coastal states?

[–] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Can Minnesota come along too? We're basically in Canada here already.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 70 points 1 month ago

that's not… usually what you do win you win. so like… honestly… okay, kick me out, let me be governed by a saner government. also DC is between two blue state so good luck evacuating back to your conservative safe space, dumbass

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly "win", and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?

I suspect it's because for this brief period of time, anyway, it's hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they'd "win" and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?

Because we've stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore

Yeah, the Professional Left did an entire section about this and they mentioned the case where some husband is completely gobsmacked that his wife filed for divorce.

But yeah, I've seen the same thing and heard about it from others. Lots of quiet interactions about how so and so is a big proponent of donvict; don't invite him/her to {whatever social function}.

The refrain of "yeah, but let's just agree to disagree" - I can see why many people, especially those most at risk thanks to what they wan, are thinking: "YEAH, FUCK THAT. You just voted to harm me, and you want to act like it's just a disagreement?"

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[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Why so angry? It's all they know..

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Don't threaten me with a good time lady.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I mean... as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We'll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (9 children)

About the only thing that would make me happier than to have the entire pacific west coast secede and create a sovereign nation would be for Trump to do it for us so we don't have to fight a war over it. You want us gone? Please, show us the exit, we'll be on our way. No takebacksies.

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[–] Daze@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] M600@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

A known traitor threat against the United States was allowed to run for and be elected president. This country doesn't have laws except for the poor and it certainly doesn't have a functioning system of justice or even government at this point.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Depends.

Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union ~~through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally~~ by constitutional amendment. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.

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[–] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

California would do so much better on its own I feel like

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

5th largest economy on the planet by itself.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Russia has a smaller economy. Go ahead. Make it without us. Dumb fucks.

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[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 40 points 1 month ago

Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So they know that Texas doesn't have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I'm kidding, I know they don't know. They probably also don't know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won't. At all.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 month ago

Oh no, please, don't

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If it weren't mainly a rural vs. urban split, I'd be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we're too spread out to make it feasible.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A republican flip flopping on states rights again? I'm shocked.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh look, a broken clock.

How many times do we need to keep this nation "united" at gunpoint before we acknowledge that the science and reason people are incompatible with the supply side Jesus and racial hatred people? We can't stand one another, and time only deepens that division until bloodshed, over and over.

You can't educate those cultures that refuse to be educated or have their children educated. That kind of change, born of desperation and constant struggle inflicted from your own culture's values needs to come from within. The Red States need their Martin Luther "maybe we shouldn't punch ourselves in the face every day" reformation moment, and it isn't rational for those that see beyond their ignorance and superstition be dragged down with them for generations until they get there. Blue states propping them up only prolong comfort in their ignorance.

You can't force cultural evolution or save the willfully ignorant from their own willlfull ignorance from outside on Alabama any more than you can on Afghanistan, all you do is create a common enemy for them, as we continue to experience.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Marjorie Taylor Dumbfuck here doesn't realize that her state, and in fact all Republican-led states, are solely dependent on blue state generosity in order to continue to exist. I'm sure the blue states would absolutely love for these freeloading welfare states to leave the union, because it would offer an immediate federal surplus that could be better allocated on themselves. It will never happen, because the smart conservatives love having a never-ending money faucet they can gargle when their economic plans fail due to their own ineptitude.

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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, with what I'm genuinely concerned is going to happen, that would probably be preferable. Give everyone some notice, and we can escape the nutjobs by being homeless in California and New York instead of concentrated in camps in Florida and Georgia. I mean, it'll inevitably make the blue state nation more conservative as they blame southern refugees for all their problems, but it'd still be better more than likely

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

Yeah, divorce yourself from all those states that send you money because you're too backward to care for yourself. Sounds like a great idea!

[–] Sinkbath@lemmy.today 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There should be a bot that searches out MarjorieTG posts and auto-comments ”What a fucking idiot.”

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago

[Wearing the US flag as a t-shirt and a pair of pajamas]: "I believe in the UNITED States of America!!!! ..... but I want a divorce"

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I'm literally moving to a blue state. The one good idea she had I beat her to it. Peace idiots.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Greene on Monday described these actions as a threat against Trump's "mandate."

That mandate calls for actions Democratic states must accept, Greene argued, such as the mass deportation of "illegal invaders" and preventing trans children from playing sports.

The funny thing is that MTG is getting less and less of a "mandate" from GA-14 for all of her crap: In 2020 she got 74.6 percent of the vote, in 2022 she got 65.9, and in 2024 she got 64.4. Keep it up Marge.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Still way, way, way too high for a white supremacist goblin in human form to get.

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[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The rest of the US doesn't deserve California's economy

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Canada has given the world some of the worst extremists, racists, etc. (Proud Boys being one of the more recent horrible things we've exported)

There's a group that popped up during the convoy called diagolon. They posted this way back which seems like how things would work (a path from Russia to Florida)

They claim it's a joke, but isn't it always just a joke.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pretty sure BC, VA, and CO are not going along with that.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Since the House and EC are capped, we should take the excess population that is not being represented and move it around.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (6 children)

What's the split on ports in blue states vs red states?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm sure the blue states won't have an issue losing the subsidies-dependent red states. I wonder where flyover country wants to get the money from to keep up their lifestyle.

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[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm hoping Cascadia finally gets realized. I want to uninvite Idaho, though.

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