If I went around telling people Greta Turmberg was the anti christ and that I needed to wield supreme executive surveillance power to stop it they’d lock me away. They’d say I was mad. Look psychotic billionaires ranting about biblical scripture is no basis for a system of government..supreme executive rule should come from the will of the masses not some pedofile oligarch having a mental break
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THAT'S all we had to do?? jesus christ i've been slaughtering lambs for the last decade
Peter Thiel who hung out with notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and convicted child sex twice Ghislaine Maxwell? That Peter Thiel?
By antichrist he means Peter Thiel's inner child. How have these morons amassed so much power?
Too late dipshit, he's already in the White House.
AI has it all wrong, it’s thiel that is the anti-christ.
On the other hand living in a technofeudalist dystopia is what God wants...
Well, shit. Bring on the antichrist, I guess.
Peter Thiel is building Palantir and wants to dominate with a global AI driven mass surveillance state. His comic book rantings should terrify everyone because he is aiding Israel in its genocide and literally wants to destroy democracy around the world. If anyone is building a mythological evil bible beast it him.
Pedo Thiel says what?
We know you've been on the Epstein island dude.
The only difference between thiel and a homeless man living in a cardboard box is 26.1 billion dollars.
The homeless man is probably more sane
So as someone who grew up very much immersed in "end times" focused Christianity I have never really understood something- why do so many end times Christians view end times prophecies like the Antichrist or the Mark of the Beast as things to be prevented or avoided? Even growing up I didn't understand this because in the Bible it's very clear that all that stuff will happen (or is happening, depending on whether you believe Revelation was meant to be a metaphor for current events at the time of writing) because God is explicitly allowing it to, and that these things are necessary for Christ's ultimate victory over Death and Evil. So why would you try to prevent the rise of the Antichrist? In the "best case" you're just kicking the can down the road and delaying the Return of Jesus a little. In New Testament apocalyptic writing, believers are described as resisting the Antichrist's persecution, but not in having anything to do with its arrival one way or another. If humans are able to prevent, delay, or hinder the rise of the Antichrist, then God is not in charge and the whole point of these prophecies is kind of invalidated. The whole point of apocalyptic literature is that these bad things are happening and it seems like evil is winning over good, but in reality God is still all powerful and is still in control of all of it, and wins in the end.
why do so many end times Christians view end times prophecies like the Antichrist or the Mark of the Beast as things to be prevented or avoided?
wasn't raised Christian, but this kind of dissonance is what made me 1) question the faith of so-called believers around me, and 2) question the validity of my own faith / the teachings.
When it comes to most hardline religious people, If they really believed the teachings they claimed are true, they would behave in a completely different manner.
To live in literal accordance with most conservative religious teachings you basically have to act like an unhinged crazy person.
Any biblical scholar will tell you Revelations was never meant to be a prophecy.
I’m guessing it’s all down to sports. “I’m a Christian, so that means I’m on Christ’s team. Obviously Christ’s biggest rival is Antichrist, so I have to be against him too. Booooo Antichrist!”
So Anti/Christ is like Heel/Face in pro wrestling
I think a little more like Yankees/Red Sox in baseball. Two things that basically seem the same to outsiders but which have their own devoted/crazy followings.
I understand that distinction, thus proving your point ig
in the Bible it’s very clear that all that stuff will happen... and that these things are necessary for Christ’s ultimate victory over Death and Evil. So why would you try to prevent the rise of the Antichrist? In the “best case” you’re just kicking the can down the road and delaying the Return of Jesus a little.
You've put a lot more thought and consideration into it than these folks. That's why they're all "this bad, that bad, oh no Anti-Christ!"
To be fair, the end times isn't likely to be good for most. God's people for salvation number only a few:
Revelation 7:4 - Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
That ain't much. There are billions of people on the planet. At the end, the Christian God will only protect a small number from the events of the end times. The rest of us will have to just suck it up and live and suffer through the apocalypse, as it were.
I'm not a believer so I can only guess. But my guess is, despite being "Christian" (in really big finger quotes), I think deep down, a lot of these folks know they are Hell-bound (according to their own system of belief), or at the very least, hell-on-Earth-bound. They're far from Christ-like in their behavior and existence, and I can't see why they'd be among the chosen few of God's protection in the end days. Especially since many of them aren't Jewish, and actively despise Jews (despite also supporting Israel? I dunno, these people confuse the hell out of me). So postponing the end serves to postpone their own damnation.
That is a pretty specific number. Any chance they reconsidered it at some point within the last 2000-ish years though? Like at some point, was god like "We gotta update those ~~abduction~~ rapture numbers guys. They're super outdated".
Maybe they had a total capacity of 150.000 at the time, due to fire regulations and stuff, and then you have the staff and a bit of headroom in case a few people sneak in. But who knows, maybe the counsel has reconsidered fire code? Or did they at any point consider building an extension to heaven?
Any chance they reconsidered it at some point within the last 2000-ish years though?
You're right, these numbers should be updated.
Since the world population increased from roughly 200 million people on earth at the time these texts were written to closely 8 billion today, that's a roughly 40x increase in total population. So if we assume the same relative percentage, that's gonna be 6 million people to be saved in total. xD
666,000,000 to be precise.
/s ^that is not precise at all.
Peter Thiel and Donald Trump are in the Epstein Files.
These people are genuinely, certifiably insane, and they’re in charge.
People who believe in fairy tales, demons, and other childish nonsense as adults should be referred to mental health services, not be given the keys to the economy and governance.
How can so many grown adults think this is okay? It’s complete madness. They’re dooming us with their psychopathy and people are nodding along like this is normal. Fucking hell.
And they also want total control over us and know every single minute detail on us while keeping most things about themselves highly secretive.
Nah all myths are abstract descriptions of systems and processes. They were never meant to be detailed.
The real madness is not updating these myths to today's standards and taking everything that was written literally thousands of years ago as inarguably correct.
We elected someone for president who literally embodies ALL of the Seven Deadly Sins. I'd say the AntiChrist is already here.
Its actually amazing how the complete opposite of Christian he is and yet Christians love him... even when he says he isn't Christian.
Its actually amazing how the complete opposite of Christian he is
The thing that you're missing is that christianity is a pretty brutal, cold-hearted thing. It was never meant to be about compassion and love. That's just what they tell the children sothat they get onboard with it all.
It's like, when you're teaching maths to children and you present fractions using apples and pies, pretty harmless things. Years later, you can use more advanced maths (that are based on the basics of maths) to engineer weapons and heavy machinery, and it's all based on the same maths. It's not about being cute, it's about maths, it's more abstract than any of the applications.
Math and science are completely neutral things. You can use them for any numbernof purposes, good or bad. AI could be a tremendous force for good, even the 'art generation' stuff i am sure has SOME uses (my use for it is making furry porn and nothing more).
But as it stands... it is being directly applied to gathering every single thing about everyone, fooling them into thinking they are having private conversations when absolutely everything is being logged, and causing emotional dependencies on programs that aren't people, and even killing others with military AI.
I remember in 2014 when the Robocop remake came out the whole point of that movie is talking about how AI law enforcement is a bad idea specifically because AI has absolutely no feelings whatsoever... and that trope of AI monsters killing people due to programming glitches, programming intent, or just utilitarian approaches has been around since the 1960s and 70s with 2001a space Odyssey and West World.
utilitarian approaches has been around since the 1960s and 70s
utilitarian approaches have been around for much longer than that, at least since 1500 when machiavelli wrote the influential book "the prince" where he argued utilitarism.
Isn't that when the rapture happens tho?
Huh. If Trump is the Antichrist, and he fits the description pretty much perfectly, would AI be "The Beast" in this movie?
ignore him. Thiel lost his marbles from obvious mental illness issues and drug addiction. Going down the same route as John McAfee.
He'd be the authority on this subject since he's a major financial backer of the antichrist.
Of course today we see that he is in the Epstein files, new ones released by Congress.
This guy being the puppet master behind Vance and others, makes sense how they went so stupidly hard into the Epstein cover-up.