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Trump has suggested steam catapults every year since 2017, saying digital systems are too ‘complicated’

After nearly a decade of loudly complaining about the fact that modern US aircraft carriers use electromagnetic systems to launch fighter jets instead of steam-powered catapults, Donald Trump has directed the Pentagon to redesign a new aircraft carrier to replace the modern system with the old-fashioned catapults he prefers.

Trump signed a national security memorandum on Thursday directing the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the acting navy secretary, Hung Cao, to make the change he has had his heart set on since at least 2017, when he first described his idea to Time magazine.

The memorandum gives the Pentagon leaders 60 days to come up with “a plan on the required measures to replace the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System and Advanced Weapons Elevators with steam and hydraulic systems for the construction of” the USS Doris Miller, a Ford-class aircraft carrier, which is already two years behind schedule.

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[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 144 points 4 days ago (3 children)

He’s got a pool company that can do it?

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 114 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Which one of his friends sells steam systems?

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

his friends

You must be the type that truly believes the stripper loves you

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 25 points 4 days ago

tbf its a common shortform of business friends which also has nothing to do with friendship

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 79 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The issue between the two systems is isolation. In the old C-13 series if one track needed repair, you have to shut steam off to that track. The rest can keep going. In the EMALS there's just the one centralize power architecture, so if a track has to go down, it takes the whole thing down with it.

Few really want to return to steam. It requires a lot of the ship to house special high pressure equipment and requires more maintenance overall to keep it running. Additionally, a lot of the drones designed need the precise control that the EMALS provides to not break apart. But it's hard to point out all the various tooling that has to go on behind the scenes when one track goes down with steam, when the whole effing thing with EMALS has to go down and no launching happens for hours.

And that's ultimately what happens, the metrics that are being used are getting aircraft into the air, not overall downtime or cost to operate. And EMALS is still struggling to hit the numbers it has to hit and likely won't hit them till around 2030. Every time it goes down, every zero aircrafts it gets pulls that metric down hard.

[–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 2 points 2 days ago

It's so simple to solve though, just have the track squirt up a bit of fog machine smoke each time it runs and tell him it's steam powered again. What is he going to do, go check? Just lie, that's our culture now, just lie about it.

[–] wake@quokk.au 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But her EMALS

(sorry, I actually enjoyed your contribution though)

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

5 stars, that was a good one!

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You'd think that an electric system should allow for relatively easy isolation – isolating electric circuits from each other with breakers is hardly new technology. Is this lack of isolation a design flaw of EMALS or is there an actual physical reason why it couldn't be designed with independently powerable tracks?

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Looks like they've already issued a contract to fix it so it would appear it's entirely possible and someone just fucked up the requirements/design first time around.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago

Absolutely wild that this wasn't part of the original design. I can turn off power to my stove without shutting down my whole house, but the US Navy can't independently power launch systems.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 25 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The inevitable lunacy of your garden variety dictator. Dictate ALL the things, my whims are more important than reality.

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This motherfucker has no clue how magnets work.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This motherfucker has no clue ~~how magnets work.~~

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[–] RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The same dumb motherfucker who wanted to nuke a hurricane and also extended a hurricane path with a Sharpe because NOAA wouldn't entertain his valuable input on hurricane path.....of course a guy like that is vexed by magnets

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm vaguely recalling a press conference where Trump suggested that magnets can be deactivated by putting it water.

Is anyone else remembering this?

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 18 points 4 days ago

I remember him not knowing what they are, so one of those Trumps must be lying!

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This idiot thinks he is an expert on everything. More people need to tell the baby NO.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago

The world will yield to US might when these are installed.

Trump is putting out Aladeen vibes...

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I can only imagine the hard facepalming going on in the Navy right now.

How many more before this government collapses, as it should? It's truly an emperor-no-clothes situation.

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Next: why do we even need the planes; we can directly catapult stones on the enemy! Wonder why nobody ever thought about it

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just wait until he finds out about trebuchets.

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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Use the electromagnetic launcher just also add a tube that shoots out a stream of hot steam as it launches a plane so his dumb ass can brag about how he built a steam launcher.

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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 28 points 4 days ago

Join me in some wild speculation about this aircraft carrier which is already behind schedule:

The ship, named for Messman Second Class Doris Miller, is the first aircraft carrier named for both an enlisted sailor and an African American.[9] The ship will be the second to honor Miller, who received the Navy Cross for his actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor; the first ship was USS Miller (FF-1091).[10] It is currently the only Gerald R. Ford-class carrier to be named after a person who was not a former president.

The president's changes will slow things down. Now why would he want to slow that aircraft carrier down?

“The future Trump-class battleship – the USS Defiant – will be the largest, deadliest and most versatile and best-looking warship anywhere on the world’s oceans,” Phelan said...

“The U.S. Navy will lead the design, along with me, because I’m a very aesthetic person,” Trump said.

-- Trump Unveils New Battleship Class

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And even with this, the US Navy isn't going back in time anywhere as far or as fast as the US Department Of Health which has already reached the 18th century under a leadership that denies that vaccines work.

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is so obviously irrational that I'm surprised that his cabinet hasn't removed him for incompetence just for this. The man is a dotard.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

His cabinet wouldn't have their cushy jobs if it wasn't for that dotard.

They're not gonna kill the goose that lays their golden eggs.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is this because of his obsession with magnets and water?

Can the military not just lie to him and tell them they've done it it's not like he's going to check. Even if he did he wouldn't know what he was looking at because his brain, not something to write home about the best of times, has now turn to cottage cheese.

He'll be directing the military to return to wooden ships and musket next.

[–] Ironrod@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's been over 100 years since the last wooden battalion was sunk! That obviously means they are superior than metal ships

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If he carrys on like this we can reenact the war of independence.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can only imagine he really cares about this because he's invested in the company that makes the steam-powered systems.

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[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This moron is confounded by magnets and windmills. He is one of the dumbest (did you know there's a 'b' in dumb? Most people don't you know) people in American history.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they're using electric motors and he wants steam engines?

[–] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 days ago

Yes, after spending outrageous amounts to develop EMALS (what's basically a railgun but for launching airplanes) we can now spend even more to rip that out and design a steam system for those ships....

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

“Donald Trump should stick to what he knows best – ballrooms, bankruptcy, and bullshit.”

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 26 points 4 days ago

Russia sabotaging the US's military again. It's all hegseth does but trump is such a well trained stooge at this point that advancing russia's agenda is like second nature to him.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Because it’s electric?

Nevermind the electronic valves and electronic systems that control the steam, it just can’t be electric where it counts. This is the stupidest president ever.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Because it’s electric?

No, because it has magnets.

Trump is notoriously afraid of magnets. It upsets him that they would put a magnet on something that's supposed to float on the sea, and he worries about them sinking with the magnets still on them. I read through one of his rants on the topic, verbatim. The guy is stupid. Very stupid indeed. And senile.

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[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago (6 children)

What we'll probably hear from him next is that he prefers steam gauges over glass cockpits and that all aircraft, civilian or military, must be retrofitted with the former. And biplanes, the Pentagon must start buying and using them. Everybody knows (except for Communists) that two wings are better than one.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I think it's more like "bring back whatever I watched on film between 1955-1990 as that's the last time the world felt familiar". Steam catapults from Top Gun, TriStar jet because triples are best, PanAm airlines because the stewardesses had miniskirts and cleavage. Fuck it, someone call Howard Hughes while we're at it

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

And they can use clean coal to generate the steam!

[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The steam revolution is here finally! What will he think of next? Steam trains?

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really hate how Americans are screwing the world via Trump but at least he is also screwing Americans. Not quite balance but at least Americans should be feeling some of the pain that they insist on inflicting on the rest of the world.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

at least he is also screwing Americans

It's almost as if he's really a tool of Putin and the Saudis and doesn't give two fucks about America.

Edit: I can't believe I forgot about Israel.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Have they finished turning the California water faucet 37 degrees towards Canada yet? Or reopening Alcatraz? How many of these crackhead ideas go anywhere?

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

EMALS has been around for over 15 years so naturally trump lost interest

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago

Steam? Idk. Sounds pretty woke to me.

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