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[–] teft@lemmy.world 142 points 3 months ago (9 children)

This is what I don't get about people like Vance who criticize others for being childless. You don't know what is going on in that person's life. They may have chosen to not have kids for myriad reasons. They may not have had the choice due to health reasons. Maybe their partner had trauma in their childhood and they don't want to continue generational trauma.

Judging them for not having kids is just idiotic.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

This is the nature of all Republicans that i know. It's not just a disrespect for people from different backgrounds, they don't even see people who live a life different from their own. They're anti-abortion because bad things don't happen in their world - there's no rape or child abuse or mental health issues or addiction. Well, there are those things but they don't talk about it.

I work in a public school with kids with severe disabilities. A Republican friend was shocked that these kids attend school. I explained that the other option (the old way) was going to an institution where the rate of abuse was outrageously high and they're not making babies only because the girls go on birth control to stop their periods for easier hygiene. He said, "Oh my God! That's disgusting!" No shit dude - that's the world we live in - step outside of your own before you start telling others how to live theirs.

ETA: I kind of got on an angry tangent there. Sorry about that.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 36 points 3 months ago

Dude, let those angry tangents out. It helps people empathize but it's also a heavy weight to be carrying around inside your gut. Don't apologize for being outraged by outrageous things.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To add to this, a lot of people don't see individuals with intellectual/developmental disabilities (IDD) as people. To them, they're something else.

A person with IDD has all the same rights, including voting, as any other person. To reinforce that, many (or maybe all) states have their rights specifically codified (e.g., Florida Statute 393.13). To remove those rights, it requires a court order, just like it does for you and me.

In Florida, the supports for individuals with IDD promotes and assists them with the voting process, especially with getting to the polls to cast their votes!

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I don't disagree with the ability for IDD to vote, but after living in an apartment complex with a large portion of "intellectually challenged" (they were quiet fine neighbors...the complex was getting away with no maintenance a other scams) I worry that unscrupulous individuals would try to influence them to vote against their best interest (all im am saying is they might not get to vote their choice) which is a shitty thing to do

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idiots don't care, they just get upset when others enjoy freedoms they do not or simply do not understand or share. Misery loves company and many people are cunts.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's deeper and more dangerous than that.

The childless cat ladies are now the 'others', outsiders to the in group and free to be attacked.

To the right wing if you are a woman who isn't 'breedable' then you're in league with the enemy.

That means disabled, gay, asexual, mentally unbalanced, liberal, and thoroughly un-American.

You know... fascism.

[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I, for one, would love to be bread.

Warm, soft, and moist on the inside. Stuffed with meat like a nice thick savory sausage. Or maybe filled with sweet cream. At least spread with butter and covered with seed. Sesame is my favorite, while poppy is ok.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

You just made me double check for a typo! Heh.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

They need to be careful about how narrowly they define their one true Scotsman. The more people they attack, the more they risk "hurting the wrong people."

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 31 points 3 months ago

And she has kids. Just not hers. So somehow her not birthing a kid makes her bad. That says right there where he thinks a woman's job is.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It all comes down to a lack of empathy. These people made their own life choices that worked out for them personally, but can't get their head around the notion that other people can make different life choices (or have the choice made for them due to circumstances beyond their control).

It's like they perceive only one path to happiness - the path they took - and look with disdain on anyone who is doing it differently.

I'm sure Vance read Aniston's story and was secretly thinking to himself "Hah! That's what you get when you promote your career over your family", while booking several campaign trips which will take him away from his kids for weeks at a time.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

It's lack of empathy and lack of personal exposure. They live in bubbles where they only associate with people who think and act like themselves. It's a fertile ground for disconnection with reality, and it breeds this withholding of empathy for those who live outside the bubble.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Republicans don’t do empathy. I’m pretty sure that’s a universal (and defining) trait for them.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago

People like Vance are under the belief that having children is all women are for. If they don't have babies, their purpose is unfulfilled and their life is wasted.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago

The cruelty is the point

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Also, who takes care of JD Vance's kids? I haven't read up on him at all yet, but in all likelihood it's his wife. He's busy trying to get elected to VP right now, just like Kamala Harris is.

The double standards faced by women are literally impossible to satisfy.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I mean it's like bullying someone for not going into the finance field. It's not the others that are stupid, you are just being a dick for no reason at that point. They should at least hate on her for acting if at all.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I hate the implication that you only have value if you have children, and if you don't have children you don't matter and neither do your opinions. As if having children is some grandiose accomplishment, only achieved by the best of society.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They always find a reason to devalue opinions they don’t like. “Shut up and dribble” is my favorite. They want people to “stay in their lane” completely ignoring we live in a democracy where everyone is entitled to an opinion. MUH freeze peach crowd hating on free speech when they don’t like the message but as soon as Kid Rock or Hulk Hogan opens their mouths they’re all ears.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 months ago

They want people to “stay in their lane”

it even goes beyond that. recall fauci being relentlessly attacked (to this day) despite doing nothing but "staying in his lane," medical expertise. because shutdowns are bad for business, it became priority 1 to convince everyone that covid is a hoax and if you wear a mask you are literally a baby-eating satan

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

ignoring we live in a democracy where everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Yeah, they don’t want that either.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

In a fascist state, "in group" members reproducing is like, the biggest thing.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Even roaches have babies

~Chris Rock

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This actually jibes with their argument that you can't be a woman if you can't bear children, something they say about trans women all the time. If you're childless, you're not a real woman to them.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Because women are just baby ovens to them

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago

Reductive gender essentialism? You don't say!

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, Jen!

Signed, a childless cat daddy.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm here with you buddy since my last relationship ended (clearly because I'm broken) it's just me and my Dumpster Goblin rescue and the other one who thinks he is a dog.....I kinda don't want to leave kids in the current world let alone the one Trump and Vance would create allowing fossil fuels to destroy the environment.

[–] Pyotr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dumpster Goblin is a metal name for a cat, and I'm going to steal it.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

He is a Dumpster Goblin, because of that and his general air of chaos I named him Luci for Lucifer....Still metal? I love grindcore

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

Childfree cat lady here doing my part!