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The morning after former President Donald Trump repeated racist claims about Haitians in Springfield, Ohio, some Haitian families are keeping their children home from school for their safety, according to an area activist. Those who allowed their children did so, but with heavy hearts.

“She [my niece] was scared, but I told her to go, that God would protect,” said one Haitian resident, who asked that she not be identified publicly for fear of reprisal. 

“We’re all victims this morning,” said the woman, who moved to Springfield six years ago. “They’re attacking us in every way.”

Aside from the anxiety caused by Tuesday night’s debate, the woman also said her cars have been vandalized twice in the middle of the night. She woke up one morning to broken windows and another to acid thrown on the vehicle. She’s added cameras to her driveway and tried to report the incidents to the police to no avail.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's insane how much we have regressed with respect to this.

This country has always been racist, but at least since I've been alive, the general consensus is that racism is bad and it was never acceptable to be openly racist without being socially ostracized (to be fair, I'm referring to the region of the US where I grew up. I'm sure it varied by region).

The rise of Trump, and the ubiquity of social media has empowered these people to step out of the shadows, I guess, and show the true face of over 1/3 of voters in this country.

It fucking sucks to see

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago

Wait, I'm not racist, I only hate dirty immigrants, it didn't matter what race they are

-racists, probably

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's really insane if you listen to Reagan talking about immigrants being the strength of the nation and keeping the USA young and growing. And how if we ever stop with immigration or would ruin the country.

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This isn't even the first time he's done this, remember what happened with Covid and Asian Americans? Just look at the hate groups that support him, he never really distances himself from them, and he riles them up or gives them a target whenever it behooves him to do so.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And the ban on muslims entering the country specifically.

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I knew I was missing at least one other instance. What a jackass.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

What we always suspected is now uncontestable; the US is rotting from within and racism is our disease.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

@Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee

In a way Trump supporters lifted a dirty bandaid from the back off this nation, allowing us to see what was festering underneath.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 156 points 5 days ago (1 children)

tried to report the incidents to the police to no avail.

ACAB.

Some of those who work forces etc etc

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

UHHHG!

Killing in the name of!

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

When did Rage Against the Machine get so political?

I mean, the machine is just a robot right? Like it's a band about fighting giant angry robots?

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have raged against a printer once or twice. Seems plausible to me.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Conservatism is harmful. It always has been.

In all of human history, nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing. There is simply no place in a modern culture for harmful, regressive, hate-based ideologies like conservatism.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Conservatism is the antithesis of progress

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

By definition.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I miss when conservatives tried to conserve things like national parks (i.e. Teddy Roosevelt) instead of using conservatism as a mask for racism.

It's like, it seems appropriate for a two party system to have one party push for progress, while the other advises caution. But they dropped the euphemism and have been just blatantly racist/xenophobic/anti-other for far too long to pretend now that conservatism is anything else.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's almost like we should do something about it instead of waiting for the government to do something about it.

it's almost like the world is on a collision course with a giant metaphorical iceberg while we stand idly by and do nothing.

it's almost like any amount of carnage and destruction would be better than a future in which we continue to let morons have a hand in guiding our society.

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[–] Coach@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Brought to you by the MAGA terrorist organization and crime syndicate.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It feels almost trite at this point, but:

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Wait is this real..? Are they saying the quiet part out loud again…? Screaming loud..?

What’s the context here?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago

Oof.

Thanks for the link. It’s one thing to be told “trust me bro”, and another entirely to… have context.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

They’re attempting to desensitize people to the term and concept of domestic terrorist as well as to get conservatives to see domestic terror as their side

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 18 points 4 days ago

Yes it's real

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hope the people who spread the lies about them get charged with incitement

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

They won't, but there's a very good chance some Haitian families will get SWAT'd by racist neighbors.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 days ago (4 children)

the wildest thing about these claims, is that there's literally no evidence of this shit happening, at all.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 96 points 5 days ago (1 children)

God would protect her

Not a great plan.

[–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 days ago

It's a concept of a plan

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 86 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just as Trump and clan intended...

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Acid?

Because of some gibberish an old, senile man sputtered out? There haven't even been any pets eaten. Are they throwing acid just incase? Wtf is wrong with people.

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[–] red@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can we hold the person spreading the lies and incitng violence legally responsible?

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well he wasn't held legally responsible for speeding lies and inciting violence into the US capitol

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah I'm aware. But one can still hope.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Fuck this timeline.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

People can be so stupid to believe such racist claims.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 26 points 5 days ago

People can be so ~~stupid~~ racist to believe such racist claims.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

It's easier to believe something when you're looking for an excuse and want it to be true.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A policeman walks to the corner of the building and, distracted by his phone, clashes into an italian coming from the other side. Both fall on their asses confused. Then, out of nowhere, a hooded person appears and starts to attack an italian. A policeman stands up and pulls them apart, asks a hooded man what this is about. Looking geniunely frustrated, they answer: 'I saw you and him, and I thought that it's finally happening.'

There are a lot of variations of this anecdote* that, for me, puts it pretty great. A dire and exaggerated social situation creates a minority group of short-fused people who are just one inch from acting on their frustration and biases or\and even dreams, they just need a call to action or\and a guarantee they won't be persecuted. And their orange monarch just mumbled something in his rant, accidentially this time unlike the Jan 6 coup attempt, and it enabled them to act. In spite of the nurturing the MAGA cult does to this group, they aren't enough to cause a snowballing effect just yet, but the ripple effect of his another random bullshit rant shows they are listening and can do covert, sneaky shit to other humans after just a whistle. It'd take a long time for the US to recover from trumpism.

* I believe the original one was about the nationalistic Black Hundreds and how they, enabled by tsarist police and the wealthy, started a string of chaotic pogroms, torching houses and hurting\killing hundreds of thousands.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

While I agree whole heartedly with everything you typed. I just find it incredibly ironic that the story features an Italian. A group known for being persecuted but became famously racist as hell (Italian Americans included) with a prime minister with a hard on for facism.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm. From Italian American family, have no shortage of racism here...

My goddamn grandma never forgets to chime in on political conversations with the "and diseases! Don't forget the immigrats bring disease into our country!"

...ughhh

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a MAGA coworker who goes on about how immigrants bring diseases because they're unvaccinated. She's also anti-vax.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago

Conservative Contradiction! They go hand in hand!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

TFG is continuing to practice stochastic terrorism. Ugh.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 27 points 4 days ago

The police are the perpetrators.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Buhbuhbuh he saw it on TV!

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