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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 349 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Americans can understand if you phrase it differently.

"You know how sometimes, you go to a big event, and the parking is so far away from the event that they have to ferry people from the parking lots to the event using a bus? Well, this is just like that, except you park at home."

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 189 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 143 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. Textbook.

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[–] Ininewcrow@piefed.ca 46 points 2 weeks ago

This is like baby proofing the world for Americans.

[–] Jokulhlaups@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds amazing?! The bus just picks you up at home?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, even when you park in the parking lot, you have to walk to the area where the bus stops in order to pick you up. For the sake of convenience, let's call that area a "bus stop." So, you simply need to find the "bus stop" near your home.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Okay but when you drive to the "bus stop" near your home, where do you park your pickup truck? And, are there multiple sizes of bus? If not, how will my community know that I'm the manliest man, if I don't roll up in the biggliest vehicle?

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[–] Jokulhlaups@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

That sounds reasonable. So it's like a meet up point for me, my neighbors, and the bus...

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago

I refuse to take any kind of public transport. That's why I carry my own elevator with me in case I need to enter a skyscraper.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 107 points 2 weeks ago

In America, you have thousands in tiny cars. Weak and undisciplined, unable hold more than four people.

In Germany, one big car on a long steel road carries thousands of people.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 85 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

What's funny is in my experience in the USA it's not that there are not busses but they take SOO much longer. I had a job that was 2.8 miles away. It took 7 or 8 minutes to drive there(depending on if you hit the one traffic light on red). Theres a bus stop outside the company. There's a bus stop on the corner of my complex. I looked up on the bus provider website how long it would take...9 hours each way.

Years ago I was living in a different state, a friend was throwing a new years party in his college house and invited me. His college was 3 hours away. I thought about just taking a bus since obviously we would be drinking. I checked the bus schedule... It would take 2.5 days with 4 change overs each way.

I ended up just crashing on his couch and drove home after I recovered from the hang over.

Its just not feasible to take buses here due to how long they take.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

That sounds like bus routes are either very meandery or they aren't frequent.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 46 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I think it's politics... "look we have busses and no one uses them we are just wasting money on them".

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a bus stop just a few blocks from my house, but the bus only comes by once every two hours between 9am-5pm. There's also a very stupid hub design to the routes, so if you live in City B, you need to take a bus 15 miles to the hub in City A, so you can transfer to the bus for City C, even though B and C are less than 5 miles apart.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He probably misread the schedules because I refuse to believe 2.8 miles takes 9 hours. That is some serious "meandering".

9 hours!

Frequency doesn't matter if the route is somewhat direct, unless you say a 9 hour trip includes 8.5 hours of waiting on the bus?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You could walk 2.8 miles in about an hour.

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[–] death_to_carrots@feddit.org 71 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is actually a parking garage below. But you are really incentivised not to come by car, but by public transport. The tram tracks are just out of shot.

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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 66 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It still blows my mind when I look at Dutch intersections in Google's street view. They managed to fit cars, bike lanes, and even commuter trains into their intersections without any issue.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

In the US, you can only choose 2 of those things. Add a third, someone is going to die.

I have a buddy that went to Amsterdam. He’s a bigger dude and the FIRST thing he told me about his trip was “you have to fucking bike everywhere”. Sounded wonderful to me but his tone of voice suggested otherwise.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I even don’t know what he’s getting at - I’ve never had access to a bike the many times I have been there. Transit and walking are also perfectly viable options and there are still cars outside the center

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 15 points 2 weeks ago

Every time I visit Amsterdam, first thing I do is take a ferry to Overhoeks, grab a patatje with saté sauce and then proceed to walk through Amsterdam for 8 hours straight. Every time I take different routes. What I'm trying to say here is, it's a damn fine walkable city.

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[–] Fabrik872@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

On a christmas markets or similar action i usually go to drink som alcoholic beverages how does it work in us if you have to drive home?

[–] smoker@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Options are:

Stay at a friends place

Have someone drive you

Get an uber/lyft/taxi

Drive drunk anyway

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a reason we have so many drunk driving accidents. The responsible groups will designate one person to not drink at all so they can drive. You'll see Uber or Lyft a little bit more now too.

Basically everyone just gambles with other people's lives.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

It’s the American Way ^tm

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Wait until you hear about parking minimums at bars.

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[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The American mind cannot comprehend this

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The American mind cannot comprehend this

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll freely admit that I cannot comprehend the temporal ordering of twitter comments.

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[–] Marinatorres@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Usually it’s transit + walking + park-and-ride, not ‘giant garage under the market.’ When the space is for people, you don’t need to store cars there.

[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Ironically this specific market has a giant garage under the market

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 2 weeks ago

The worst part is when my fellow Americans are very "we tried nothing and we're out of ideas" about it. Or worse, actively fighting any changes.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You ever think that this meme is just about a moron?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

Usually it’s about someone from an hour outside any civilization.

[–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sadly, from my experience in my German city we don't have the upper hand here. All streets in the city center are completely overcrowded between 4 and 10 pm during our christmas market season. Same with parking garages near the city center.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, that's also then a big motivation to take public transport, when you know you won't find a parking spot. Kind of difficult to fix that without people rushing in to unfix it.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

That happens in every city that has a popular event ever

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The American reaction will either be confusion or envy, there is no in-between.

I'm the latter.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

you missed fear

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[–] Farnsworth@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

tl;dr yes there are parking garages nearby, at least in my city

[–] fishsayhelo@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

it seems the british mind also cannot, cos imgur's blocked here 🥀

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[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was gonna say, looks like Philly lol

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or Chicago's Christkindlemarket

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