It's like they keep forgetting he is handsome
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This image is so ridiculous. Like he’s a danger so much that it took a platoon of people to parade this dude in cuffs. He allegedly killed one dude, he didn’t EAT the guy. It was blatantly obvious for everyone that this was a show of force, and it ironically makes them look weak as fuck.
You want me to respect your strength? Go put handcuffs on Trump. The rule of law is broken. The weak suffer the most and the rich pay to stay out of it.
I’m not a violent man. A death of another human is a complicated introspection for most people. Then there are others who don’t even consider the value or even a difference in perspective. Luigi is not some psychopath. Allegedly, he deliberately chose impact at the highest level he could. The representation of a broken and predatory system. It’s not ok that faceless entities who aren’t doctors can choose the life and death choices over the recommendations of doctors.
He killed one dude,
Stop saying this shit.
Thank you! Everyone has been saying this and it's so cop-brained that it's frustrating.
They have not proven that he killed anyone. He is innocent until proven guilty. When you accept that he actually did anything before he is convicted, you are aiding the police's and prosecutor's job by making the assumption that arrest = guilt.
Yep. He didn't do anything. Innocent into proven guilty.
If you want to be accurate, he was the primary suspect of the CEO shooting.
Why, is the court going to use random Lemmy comments as evidence?
Why, are you in favor of spreading misinformation?
It's about being factual. Let's not make this Reddit 2.0 with bs.
Also yes. Reddit is terrible at decided how crimes must have happened from an AP article with nothing but the main people's names.
Reddit is where the wackos who will cancel you for suggesting any hint of "guilt" are! How is this any different? You can think the guy did it without believing he is guilty of murder or manslaughter.
I think you both have a point.
Police in the US don't investigate killings, they find a person they feel comfortable pinning it on, and hope the trial works in their favor. We really don't know if this guy is the guy who shot someone, and NYPD has a long history of picking the wrong person to accuse based on their bias and not on facts or evidence. There's every possibly he's actually, in fact, innocent. So far all we've been told offically is largely circumstantial.
this. I am tired of people saying "what if someone sees it!?" Because potential jurors are browsing reddit Luigi fan forums, a rando Lemmy server, Instagram Luigi fan accounts, or rando substack comments all at the same time. People are allowed to have opinions about the case. I think he did it. I don't think he committed murder. He did a service and sacrificed himself. That's the whole reason for the season.
That is what gets me, all these people who need guns and such to feel strong and tough. The pirates did that. The purpose of the Jolly Roger was to instill fear, but ultimately they wanted the other ship to surrender quickly and without a fight. Pirates were all about show to make victims be afraid of them. But ultimately they were just men in poor health.
These government gooners literally cannot comprehend why people live this guy and hate them. It'd be funny if it wasn't so irritating that these are the assholes in charge.
Counterpoint: They know exactly why people love him and why they are hated.
It's time for a revolution.
It also helps that Luigi looks fine af. Like not even kidding I’m sure that’s a big part of the support too lol.
I agree. Lemmy seems unable to grasp this. He looks like a super nice, ordinary guy that you'd like to hang out with.
He probably is, but what about all the other people who don't look like him? No one talks about jury nullification for their cases.
Given the success He should start his Presidental run right now. ( I want at least to see this movie )
Ya know, a certain citizen gone president recently employed the tactic to avoid persecution for his crimes.... Can we drag the Mangione case another 3 ish years so Luigi can declare for presidency? Then (based on precedent) his case has to stall until after the election.
A president once said “ I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes”
I want to see a gun duel between Luigi and Trump. We can put together an Old West stage town, and let it play out.
turns out, it's a pretty good campaign move.
Turns out it only matters who he shoots.
for the left; yes. for the right: there are better and worse targets, but it's the suffering that matters.
“It’s horrible when anybody has their life cut short by another person, especially when it could have been prevented,” Beard says on Luigi. “But the same logic has to apply both ways, right?
“Preventing people from getting the healthcare that they need – that you and your company have access to and could provide them, but don’t do so because it would threaten your business model – that’s an act of violence, too,” Beard says.
Hello based department, we got a candidate here for you.
"Luigi" in reference to the name of his podcast not the person Luigi Mangione
Not just the healthcare they need, but also healthcare that they pay for.
No, I pretty much supported him the moment it was clear that the CEO toppled over from a pre-existing condition called "being vulnerable to lead projectiles."
Only 9mm too, what a nerd. Back in my day, we were expected to have built up an immunity to 9mm by high school.
According to RFK the best way to get immunity is for everyone to cop a 9mm lead projectile, instead of using any form of preventative measure.
honestly, coddling the human body about gun shots is making us weak as a people. we'll never get over this pandemic of gun violence if we keep natural compensatory measures from kicking in.
His treatment caused about . 02% of the support for him.
United Heaths treatment of the rest of us caused the rest.
Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills, the police have been bungling every single step of the evidence process since before they "caught" Mangione, annnd finally all the work theyve done to preprejudice the public into thinking he did it by organizing documentaries demonizing Mangione while being too busy to provide the details of their "evidence" to Mangione's legal council (which they are legally obligated to do!)
Who would'a thunk cops are really bad at reading the room?
"Okay guys, we've got an attractive man with a huge amount of public support behind him regardless of guilt. How can we not turn him into a martyr?"
"Hannibal Lecter walk?"
"Yeah that won't backfire at all!"
Cops will shoot your dog for barking then wonder why people think they’re assholes
The optics the recently indicted (and later hastily pardoned) mayor being one of the guys perp walking the sympathetic suspect probably didn't help them either.
critics as in boomers, and politicians.
What they don't seem to realize is that Mangione himself isn't all that important. Whether they kill him or successfully vilify him, in a few years people won't be thinking about the man himself all that much. Their continued hardship will be what they think about, and as long as it's the capital class's fault, the anger will keep growing.
This isn’t about a man anymore. It’s about an idea.
I hope the jury nullifies the charges, but he’s become a symbol for the common people of America because he acted on the fury and frustration that hundreds of millions of us feel. You can’t really kill an idea once it gains hold in the minds of that much of the populace.